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iPhone 4S Roundtable

@JohnGarcia, @JeromeKoehler and I got together on Skype to do a quick roundtable discussion on the iPhone 4S

Posted October 7, 2011 by Shawn "Doc Rock" Boyd

@JohnGarcia, @JeromeKoehler and I got together on Skype to do a quick roundtable discussion on the iPhone 4S. We wanted to give you our viewpoints on everything from why Apple didn’t call it an iPhone 5 to how Siri is going to change our workflow.

iPhone 4S Big Changes

  • Siri – The intelligent assistant
  • Dual Core A5 – two times more power and up to seven times faster graphics
  • Camera Upgraded – 8MP resolution and a custom lens with a larger f/2.4 aperture/li>
  • 1080p Video – with video stabilization steadies shaky shots

Don’t forget the upgrades for the rest of us

  • iOS 5 – bringing over 200 new features to iPhone
  • iCloud – easiest way to manage all your stuff
  • Cards – Just remember this is for you Grandmother, Mom and Aunties :)

Get all the skinny on the iPhone directly from the source on Apple’s website

Have any pressing questions on Apple’s new wonder phone? Still stuck on the fence and need a nudge? Or maybe you think we’re plain crazy. Either way, leave us your comments and feedback.

If you’re ready to pre-order your new iPhone 4S be sure to check out @JohnGarcia’s post on his experience on the process.


  1. turkfontaine
    Posted October 7, 2011 at 5:09 am

    the camera upgrades are what i found most compelling. more important to me than any other capability

  2. iamwhite
    Posted October 7, 2011 at 6:00 am

    The only thing I’m really impressed by on the 4S is the use of a CMOS sensor in the camera. Other than that, the iPhone only really matches the current crop of high-end smartphones and will be out-spec’d at the end of the month. I’ve said this before, but I feel that–in the face of Nexus Prime and other high-end Android phones–Apple really should have pulled it out of the bag on this one. They needed a revolutionary iPhone 5.

    Not joking, Ice Cream Sandwich and the Nexus Prime is a definite threat to Apple:

    Also, regarding Siri, it seems that it’s the “butt” of some jokes in Japan:

  3. Posted October 7, 2011 at 10:18 am

    @iamwhite Here is the problem with specs, they rarely mean any thing in the end. Most of the new tablets on the market out spec the iPad but the UX doesn’t even come close, Macs are almost always out spec’ed by their pc contemporaries but slaes and demand of Macs have out paced the entire PC market 25 quarters in a row. On Spec Tiger, The Red Sox, The Eagles and the Celtics or Lakers are the best at their perspective sports yet they were all recently taken out by lesser players. The WSJ says it best “people don’t want tablets they want iPads.” the iPhone 4S will prove to be the same. It’s the experience, it’s not flawless ut it’s much closer and anything out there.

  4. DianeSeo
    Posted October 7, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Doc, is there an easy way to save all the photos and videos on my current iPhone 3GS on my iMac before I upgrade to the 4S?

  5. AlanOda
    Posted October 7, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    How much do you think The Cloud will affect data usage? I was just thinking about photos. I usually take a hundred photos on my iPhone and upload just a few. With The Cloud, all hundred of those photos might be uploaded, right?

  6. Posted October 7, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    @AlanOda Yoda, when you are in Hilo a lot; however, in Honolulu wifi is very pervasive and only getting bigger. THe number of HotSpot available for free is quite impressive compared to most cities. And you have @OCMobile and that way better than AT&T upload speeds.

    I must say though the UL data and Hotspot for $35 pm looks tempting. Meh, Just use the force. :)

  7. JeromeKoehler
    Posted October 7, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    @AlanOda That is a good point. There should be way to enable and disable settings from what I recall. If not, carriers will be making lots of money.

  8. iamwhite
    Posted October 7, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    @docrock We’ll see. I’ve always owned vanilla Android flagship phones, which have always been at least comparable with the iPhone in terms of UX and, in my case, sometimes better, though I recognize that not everyone values the same things I do. According to WSJ, I’m not alone:

    As for “sales and demand” outpacing PC, I presume you mean “sales growth,” because Mac sales certainly have not outpaced PC. As for Mac growth in market share, this article about reflects how I feel about that:

  9. iamwhite
    Posted October 7, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    @AlanOda Yeah, it does make me sad that carriers eliminated unlimited plans just as the smartphone revolution is taking off…it will prove a serious limiting factor to the flexibility of the platform in the long run. Hopefully this will be readdressed in the future, because the potential was so shimmering before.

  10. JeromeKoehler
    Posted October 7, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    @iamwhite @AlanOda I doubt they will address it soon…more money made by the carriers through overage fees. I do hope that they will raise the limit depending on network speed.

  11. JeromeKoehler
    Posted October 7, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    @iamwhite @docrock Sales growth and profit outpaces the PC industry…there was an article a while back that stated that HP had to sell a bunch of laptops to make the same amount of money as one Mac sold. I would rather have that market segment personally.

  12. JeromeKoehler
    Posted October 7, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    @turkfontaine I agree, my point and shoot has now become almost obsolete. Looking forward to using my iPhone for most of the day to day things I do. The best camera is always the camera you have with you and can whip out easily. :)

  13. iamwhite
    Posted October 7, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    @JeromeKoehler@docrock Well, I guess there’s two ways to look at that one. Some would say that, with those profit margins, they are fleecing the consumer. Frankly, it’s part of the reason I own PCs…I have a computer with the second-highest nomenclature of Intel i7 processors, 24 gigs of ram, 5 terabytes of storage on top of a 60 gig SSD, and a high-end nVidia graphics processor with CUDA processing and Fermi architecture, and a wide-gamut monitor for much less than a Mac with a quarter of those capabilities.

    Granted, I, too, would like to fleece as they do ;)

  14. JeromeKoehler
    Posted October 7, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    @iamwhite@docrock They provide amazing support. You know how to build your own computers from scratch and know how to actually use the computer without having to ask someone else for help consistently. I build my own Windows based computers also, but for my family, they use Macs because I know they are in good hands.

  15. Posted October 7, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    @iamwhite@JeromeKoehler Fleecing? Business 101 first day of class, charge what the market will allow. All business of any merit do this. Machine markup is not that high these days les than 4~6% in most cases. As far as sell thought goes, most companies report what they sell to the channel as sales, Since Apple sales are primarily direct to consumer they report product actually in the consumers hands. The Andriod experience is absolutely great for most techies, I know a crap ton of muggles who say they should have listened to me and got an iPhone. Remember most of what we read and write is to techies from techies. I say always adjust your theories with the “my mom meter.” How easy would this be for my mom. Apple Wins every time.

  16. iamwhite
    Posted October 7, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    @JeromeKoehler@docrock So, in a nutshell, Apple isn’t so much better as easier, and choose to sell having everything done for you (even if it’s less flexible) at a premium. I can accept that. :P

  17. trulyjoannies
    Posted October 9, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    This was cooool! This was the first Nonstop Tech podcast I’ve watched (and in its entirety). Very helpful. Mahalo! :) iPhone 4S, I know you’re for me!

  18. Jerome Koehler
    Posted October 9, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    @trulyjoannies Glad you enjoyed it! I believe a quick Nonstop Tech episode detailing iPhone 4S and the new features in iOS5 needs to be in the works, eh @docrock ?

About Shawn "Doc Rock" Boyd

Raised on the East Coast, Doc came to Hawaii soon after graduating high school. Doc has been involved in technology since getting his first set of tools as a Christmas present at age 5. Since climbing out from behind the Genius Bar at Apple you now will most likely find Doc waxing rhapsodically on the virtues of saké, good food, soccer, super-cars and camera gear.

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